Right, Bukkit had some old but unresolved bugs. That's no secret. Did Spigot fix this bug either? I'm not sure. My point wasn't that Spigot has bugs, it's that they refuse to acknowledge that it's a problem. I doubt any of the Bukkit staff at the time would have taken a look at that report and said "no it's meant to be like that". @pookeythekid Spigot have their forums. There's literally no good reason for Bukkit to exist purely to support a different software. It makes no sense, and claims that Bukkit forums should exist for transitional purposes are just silly really. Move on to the forums of the places that make the software or, if you want a place where lots of different ones are talked about, the minecraft forums.