I think its time to make some official IRC channels for Bukkit. The old ones are run by ex-staff that want nothing to do with whats going on with the future of Bukkit anymore. For them, their project is dead and not allowed to continue. The wiki still points users to their channels and calls them official, even though they are not owned and operated by official staff anymore. More often than not, their rules and ideals conflict with Curse's rules and ideals, too. We all have a 1.8 build of CraftBukkit now, with no official support for it. The people that made it give some support, but are more focused on their end project (which [for some odd reason, still] shall not be named). We can't go to the "official" Bukkit channels because they refuse to acknowledge its existence "There is no Bukkit 1.8" so we're kind of stuck. This 1.8 build of CB is more official than all the old builds since they are DMCA'd and cannot be obtained legally anymore. Thoughts?