100+ slot server

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    Mutant Fallout

    What would some good specs be for a 100+ slot server on a mac OSX?
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    Depends on how much money you want to spend.
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    Don't use Mac OS, use Linux (CentOS is very good).

    8GB RAM / i3 / 100mbps should be more than enough for this type of server. If you're using ram-hungry plugins, use 12GB instead. A hard drive should be fine, 75 is around the borderline IO-wise.
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    If you're buying an OS X server, go with the Mac Mini Server, everything default and then pay 200 bucks for a 16GB RAM kit from OWC. Run the map off of a RamDisk using the application "iRamDisk" this should use about 1GB. Dedicate 12GB to the server, leaving 3GB for the OS and personal use.

    Please note, there is a MASSIVE difference between OS X Server and the consumer OS X (the client version). OS X Server will stand up to a Linux based server. As far as CentOS goes, it is a nice OS for Servers, but if I recall correctly the release cycle has been a bit wonky.

    EDIT: Forgot to mention, the $50 OS X Server package from the App Store will not do you any good. It simply gives you the utilities of the Server OS while on the Client OS.
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    WHAT?? OSX is by no means anywhere near as lightweight as CentOS.

    Here's how much memory is in use on my 512MB BuyVM OVZ VPS, running CentOS 5.

    [root@Skynet ~]# free -m
                total      used      free    shared    buffers    cached
    Mem:          1024        120        903          0          0          0
    -/+ buffers/cache:        120        903
    Swap:            0          0          0
    Yep, 120MB, and this is high since I'm running Apache, php, webmin, sendmail, transmission, znc, sshd and a few others.

    [root@Skynet ~]# ps -A
      PID TTY          TIME CMD
        1 ?        00:00:01 init
    1349 ?        00:00:00 udevd
    1773 ?        00:00:06 rsyslogd
    1808 ?        00:00:00 xinetd
    1815 ?        00:00:00 saslauthd
    1816 ?        00:00:00 saslauthd
    1838 ?        00:00:20 sendmail
    1845 ?        00:00:00 sendmail
    1861 ?        00:00:03 crond
    1871 ?        00:01:51 miniserv.pl
    9688 ?        00:00:08 sshd
    9720 ?        00:00:45 httpd
    19481 ?        00:00:00 sshd
    19484 pts/0    00:00:00 bash
    19503 pts/0    00:00:00 ps
    21694 ?        01:01:36 transmission-da
    26197 ?        00:00:00 httpd
    26198 ?        00:00:00 httpd
    26200 ?        00:00:00 httpd
    26202 ?        00:00:00 httpd
    26204 ?        00:00:00 httpd
    29854 ?        00:01:46 znc
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    Nathan C

    The words Mac + server should never be in the same sentence.

    Mac-mini + RAM kit = $780

    Instead get this for $629.94 and it will make that Mac-mini cry at it's cheap Foxconn and laptop parts.

    Far better quality hardware (not cheap quality foxconn and laptop parts like macs), wayyy better specs for far cheaper than a Mac. Oh and it has better cooling, so it can run constantly, unlike a Mac-mini which is just laptop parts crammed in a aluminum box. OH AND it can run Linux :)
    LIAN LI PC-Q07 Black Aluminum Mini-ITX Tower Computer Case
    Item #: N82E16811112227
    CORSAIR Builder Series CX500 V2 500W ATX12V v2.3 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Power Supply
    Item #: N82E16817139027
    G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10666) Desktop Memory Model F3-10666CL9D-16GBXL
    Item #: N82E16820231486
    ASUS P8H61-I (REV 3.0) LGA 1155 Intel H61 HDMI USB 3.0 Mini ITX Intel Motherboard
    Item #: N82E16813131727
    Intel Core i5-2500K Sandy Bridge 3.3GHz (3.7GHz Turbo Boost) LGA 1155 95W Quad-Core Desktop Processor Intel HD Graphics 3000 ...
    Item #: N82E16819115072
    Return Policy: Iron Egg Replacement-Only Return Policy

    Crucial M4 CT064M4SSD2 2.5" 64GB SATA III MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD)
    Item #: N82E16820148441
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    If the guy wants to use OS X, don't give him hate for it. Some people don't really care about what's cheaper, they care about what they like to use. Also, the Mac Mini Server starts at $999, so I don't see how you figured a Mini and a RAM kit at $780.

    I'll state it again, the Server OS and Client OS are COMPLETELY DIFFERENT. The Server OS is made to be what it says it is, a Server OS. It doesn't have NEAR as many background processes running as the Client OS. As far as cheap hardware, that's not at all what Macs are known for. They're known for hardware that lasts. I have a Mini from 2005 that is still running just fine. I also have a few PowerMac G4's and G5's that also work perfectly still. Never has a single hardware problem.

    Hell, I've dropped my MacBook DOZENS of times, and all the hardware is fine. When I say dropped, I mean DROPPED. As in dropped while rushing down stairs dropped. Things are sturdy as can be. Again, Macs are not known for hardware failure.

    EDIT: My cousin has a Mini Server that runs 24/7 and his temps rarely exceed 50°C. My iMac rarely exceeds 55°C even when playing SC2 on the "Ultra" graphics settings.
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    Some people are overtly rich and have money to burn, but most of us aren't and like to save money while increasing performance...

    Ok? It's still not going to be using 120MB of RAM while running all of that. Heck, I'd wager the OS alone takes up more than that, even while running headless.

    Build your own computer and take good care of it, then your hardware will last just as long, and you can upgrade it at will.

    And most PCs aren't either. Only extremely shitty ones break easily.

    Ok? You'd see much lower temps with a aftermarket cooler, and it would still be cheaper, AND you can even use it as a hackintosh if you swap out the mobo in Nathan's build with a compatible one.

    I don't hate Apple, in fact I like them quite a bit, but you're sadly misinformed if you think they're cheap, durable, long-lasting or better than Linux for servers.
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