Re-Enable the Glowstone Glitch

Plugin Category: Mechanics

Suggested Plugin Name: OnceAgainUsefulGlowstone (O.A.U.G)

What I want: In minecraft pre-1.7, sitting inside of a glowstone block or TNT would allow you to see through adjacent blocks, sort of like a form of x-ray. This was used in a minigame of mine, and I dislike the fact that this no longer works at all, as you simply see the block's own texture displayed on both sides of the object's 6 faces.

If it's client side, then there's nothing you can do.
However, if this is something related to servers or packets, you can pretty much just cancel whatever device they added to stop that.

When I want it: Sooner rather than later?

 

I think it's client side texture change :/

 

N3rdFall
Well, thanks for responding. I guess I can just modify minecraft.jar

 

Did they fix this with red stone blocks too?

 

thepluginbros N3rdFall Kiaeyi
I just discovered something weird.



The client takes time to update the block, possibly because it has to identify that it is inside of the block. Is there any way to use this to achieve the desired effect? Such as misinforming the client of it's position when inside of the block?

 

You could time how long it does take to update the block and then replace the block after the time the client updates the block?

 

thepluginbros
Maybe, but it would take some testing to find out exactly how Mojang is registering this with the client. The fact that it does have some lag in figuring out stuff, and it still to some degree works if you keep hopping, give me hope that this is possible.

 

What do you mean by hopping?

 

thepluginbros
Holding down the space bar so you jump repeatedly.

 

Yes but you can also replace the block at an rate of 20 times per second! Maybe that does work?

 

In a continuation of what I had said, if you keep jumping, for a half to a quarter of a second the texture will not appear, and you can see through. My though was that if Mojang was trying to use head coordinates to test if you were inside of a block of glowstone, you could just send the client fake coordinates, pretending that the player is 1 block higher that they really are, so that the client will not think to texture the inside of the glowstone block which it thinks you are not inside of. This may be wrong, I don't know Java or Minecraft API, but this is my guess at what's going on based on my observations.

thepluginbros
That may work too, but it's the potential lag I'm worried about...
However, I know nothing about how much that really could lag, and I'd still be very interested to see if that would work!

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You can make it so that I will only replace the block if the players is in an radius of 3 blocks or use an pressure plate that triggers it?

 

thepluginbros
That's possible I suppose, I was actually thinking about asking someone to try programming what I mentioned above to reduce lag from this plugin. Replacing glowstone with more glowstone may not confuse the client, and replacing blocks will cause a ton of lag. However, simply sending a coordinate to the client that the player is 1 block higher than they really are whenever they are standing inside of glowstone block would not lag much, and it may confuse the client, making it think that you are not inside of the glowstone, and consequently not texturing it.

 

I don't know but you can try....

 

thepluginbros
I don't know Java, someone else would have to make this.

Does anyone want to try either of these ideas? I think it's definitely worthwhile to test them.

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In case the above is kind of dis-organised in terms of ideas, here are the two ideas of how to make this work:

One is to send an extremely high Y coordinate to the player's client whenever their head is inside of a block of glowstone to try to trick the client into not texturing the inside as it takes time to texture, allowing you to see through for a split second, and this may be indicative of some kind of coordinate based detection.

Another is to rapidly update the block of glowstone between it and another block type, the idea being that if you did this, each time the block updated it would take time for the client to texture the inside of the block. This may lag however.

Thanks to anyone who is willing to do this!

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I know that it is possible to check if a player is inside of a glowstone/redstone/TNT block .
I know that it is also possible to send fake coordinates to players, as seen in this plugin:
http://dev.bukkit.org/bukkit-plugins/randomcoords/

Therefore it would b totally possible to send a fake Y offset of 1000 blocks higher or something when a player is inside of a glowstone or other stated block, possibly confusing the client into not texturing the inside.

Does anyone have the time or knowledge to do this?

 

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Look at all the bumps... so many that it reminds me of the Rocky Mountains...

 

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LordDarthBob
All of the textures are done client side and not server side.

 

chasertw123
Yes, but it may be possible to trick the client.

 

LordDarthBob

I mean to say that even if it is possible then it would be so complicated that it would not be worth it.

 

chasertw123
Spamming between glowstone and glass blocks when a player is standing in a glowstone block, or sending a fake y offset to a player's client doesn't sound too complicated. Adding bot players with AI and speech recognition would be hard, making a full replica of the the whole OCN battle system would be hard, but this wouldn't involve blatantly excessive amounts of code as you're suggesting.

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