I don't want GroupManager

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    Jonny3456

    As you can see from the title that I don't what GroupManager. It keeps generating when I delete the folder, but there is no .jar for it. Is there another plugin that could be generating it? Also my prefixes where fine, but when I restarted the prefixes disappeared. Before the restart I changed somethings in Essentials. Could I have made a change that would have told Essentials to load GroupManager and over ride PermissionsEX?
     
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    FNG Nation

    Sure you didn't rename the jar or something? Or delete plugin while server was tech still running?
    It has to be something stupid happening because the groupmanager jar HAS to be in your plugins folder otherwise it will not generate a folder, etc.

    Also during these times when it seems to be using GM, can you still do /pex and /pex group and it still function properly? Essentials itself will detect pex and hook into it and doesn't over-ride or make GM re-generate anything. I use essentials, essentialschat, essentialsspawn and pex on my servers and can confirm they work well together. If you're hosted try stopping the server and keep refreshing the ftp directory and see if it's still there.
     
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    Necrodoom

    its impossible to load a plugin without a jar file. groupmanager is a standalone plugin, the only possible case is that you didnt delete the jar.
    although, why do you want to switch? PEX breaks bukkit superperms API, which is something you should stay away from.
     
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    lokpique

    PEX is fine... every time I have asked for an example of "how it breaks"... they link a post about using bad logic in your config, or a link to a specific plugin they made just to break PEX.

    However, unless you require that special "written to demonstrate that PEX breaks" plugin, you should be fine.
     
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    Jonny3456

    Ok can you help me with my group manager isn't loading? \

    Also can you help me with this:
    2013-02-24 14:13:31 [SEVERE] Could not load 'plugins/FactionsPlus.jar' in folder 'plugins'
    org.bukkit.plugin.UnknownDependencyException: Factions
    at org.bukkit.plugin.SimplePluginManager.loadPlugins(SimplePluginManager.java:196)
    at org.bukkit.craftbukkit.CraftServer.loadPlugins(CraftServer.java:221)
    at org.bukkit.craftbukkit.CraftServer.<init>(CraftServer.java:197)
    at net.minecraft.server.ServerConfigurationManager.<init>(ServerConfigurationManager.java:59)
    at net.minecraft.server.MinecraftServer.init(MinecraftServer.java:167)
    at net.minecraft.server.MinecraftServer.run(MinecraftServer.java:428)
    at net.minecraft.server.ThreadServerApplication.run(SourceFile:492)
    2013-02-24 14:13:31 [SEVERE] Could not load 'plugins/Factions.jar' in folder 'plugins'
    org.bukkit.plugin.InvalidPluginException: java.lang.NoSuchFieldError: WITHER
    at org.bukkit.plugin.java.JavaPluginLoader.loadPlugin(JavaPluginLoader.java:149)
    at org.bukkit.plugin.SimplePluginManager.loadPlugin(SimplePluginManager.java:310)
    at forge.bukkit.ForgePluginManager.loadPlugin(ForgePluginManager.java:55)
    at org.bukkit.plugin.SimplePluginManager.loadPlugins(SimplePluginManager.java:231)
    at org.bukkit.craftbukkit.CraftServer.loadPlugins(CraftServer.java:221)
    at org.bukkit.craftbukkit.CraftServer.<init>(CraftServer.java:197)
    at net.minecraft.server.ServerConfigurationManager.<init>(ServerConfigurationManager.java:59)
    at net.minecraft.server.MinecraftServer.init(MinecraftServer.java:167)
    at net.minecraft.server.MinecraftServer.run(MinecraftServer.java:428)
    at net.minecraft.server.ThreadServerApplication.run(SourceFile:492)
    Caused by: java.lang.NoSuchFieldError: WITHER
    at com.massivecraft.factions.listeners.FactionsEntityListener.<clinit>(FactionsEntityListener.java:264)
    at com.massivecraft.factions.P.<init>(P.java:73)
    at sun.reflect.NativeConstructorAccessorImpl.newInstance0(Native Method)
    at sun.reflect.NativeConstructorAccessorImpl.newInstance(NativeConstructorAccessorImpl.java:57)
    at sun.reflect.DelegatingConstructorAccessorImpl.newInstance(DelegatingConstructorAccessorImpl.java:45)
    at java.lang.reflect.Constructor.newInstance(Constructor.java:525)
    at org.bukkit.plugin.java.JavaPluginLoader.loadPlugin(JavaPluginLoader.java:145)
    ... 9 more

    Also I moded LWC to try to make it work with tekkit, and now I get this: [LWC] (there is some more text like Notify an Admin Immediately), and it says :pLAYER_INTERACT
    Here is my LWC config: http://pastebin.com/PEQe3waw

    AND this:
    [SEVERE] null
    org.bukkit.command.CommandException: Unhandled exception executing command 'w' in plugin Essentials v2.10.1
    at org.bukkit.command.PluginCommand.execute(PluginCommand.java:42)
    at org.bukkit.command.SimpleCommandMap.dispatch(SimpleCommandMap.java:166)
    at forge.bukkit.ForgeCommandMap.dispatch(ForgeCommandMap.java:55)
    at org.bukkit.craftbukkit.CraftServer.dispatchCommand(CraftServer.java:506)
    at net.minecraft.server.NetServerHandler.handleCommand(NetServerHandler.java:831)
    at net.minecraft.server.NetServerHandler.chat(NetServerHandler.java:787)
    at net.minecraft.server.NetServerHandler.a(NetServerHandler.java:769)
    at net.minecraft.server.Packet3Chat.handle(Packet3Chat.java:34)
    at net.minecraft.server.NetworkManager.b(NetworkManager.java:251)
    at net.minecraft.server.NetServerHandler.a(NetServerHandler.java:106)
    at net.minecraft.server.NetworkListenThread.a(NetworkListenThread.java:82)
    at net.minecraft.server.MinecraftServer.w(MinecraftServer.java:569)
    at net.minecraft.server.MinecraftServer.run(MinecraftServer.java:457)
    at net.minecraft.server.ThreadServerApplication.run(SourceFile:492)
    Caused by: java.lang.NullPointerException
    at com.earth2me.essentials.Essentials.onCommandEssentials(Essentials.java:328)
    at com.earth2me.essentials.Essentials.onCommand(Essentials.java:319)
    at org.bukkit.command.PluginCommand.execute(PluginCommand.java:40)
    ... 13 more

    As you can see im a very big noob. Can you read this post here and tell me if he is right? Here is the post:http://forums.bukkit.org/threads/modifyworld-probs-cont.131494/#post-1563633

    Was I right on my response?

    HELLO?!

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    livengoodb

    Remove the folder+the jar file, make sure the server is off in the process of doing this.
     
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    Jonny3456

    Ok I can't find the jar, but ok. What about the other stuff? ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
     
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    livengoodb

    Listen to what I said, stop looking at the console, that does nothing for you right now. Go to your folder and check. make sure the server is [OFF]
     
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    Jonny3456

    My group manager folder? Or plugins folder?

    Server is off

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    livengoodb

    Your group manager folder is located in your plugins folder as well as the groupmanager.jar
     
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    Jonny3456

    Never mind you said to remove the the GroupManager folder and the .jar

    Ok I deleted the folder but I couldn't find the jar

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    livengoodb

    Okay now load up your server and it will work.
     
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    Jonny3456

    Ok. When you say it will work are you saying the prefixes?
    I don't mean to annoy you because you are one of the best members that actually help, and respond to peoples posts, but what about the other probs?

    Ok so I had my server turned off, and I deleted the Group Manager plugin folder. As I told you I couldn't find the .jar. It regenerated.

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    livengoodb

    The jar is in there. Look harder
     
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    Jonny3456

    I can't find the jar, but the folder keeps generating.
     
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    Necrodoom

    do you really want to start that argument again? you were explained several times that its not just "bad logic in your config" nor "specific plugin they made just to break PEX", it has valid, proven bugs.

    post a picture of your plugins folder.
     
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    Jonny3456

    Ok I will probity switch but what other permissions plugins do you recommend? BukkitPermissions or Group Manager?

    When I do switch to one of them, will you help me with my other probs?
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    lokpique

    Not really explained... just stated that it's broken. I tried to reproduce the database lag, and I can't... maybe because my DB server is on another box than my Minecraft server, who knows. I use my brain, and think about inheritance before blindly inserting things.

    I've never seen PEX break my other plugins, either.... but of course you will hand me the "oh thats because they broke and you just didn't know because it didn't tell you" line...

    Other than the time i downloaded the "break pex plugin" you guys linked, I have never had any issues with PEX. Honestly if there are "serious problems" with it, then they are EXTREMELY specific in what combination of plugins will make the problems manifest... not really worthy of preaching about how it's broken every time you see "PEX" in a thread.

    I've asked for REAL WORLD situations that I can reproduce to "break" it as claimed, yet the only option i've seen demonstrated is "use this plugin we've written to break PEX"... too many people use it without issues for me to believe a few guys who claim it will end the world. I am not alone with that, either.

    EDIT : It's also absolutely hillarious how you guys spout off about PEX multiple times a day... basically every chance you get... yet accuse others of "trying to start this arguement" whenever someone questions it.
     
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    Jonny3456

    Ok I love Pex I don't want to switch. I agree with you, and I just can't see what is causing this. I WANT pex to work, because it is the most firmilaire to me. I don't know what I did wrong in the permissions!!!

    Just like the title of the post said, " I Don't Want GroupManager!"

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    Necrodoom

    here you go, one example i found:
    PEX doesnt support '+' in permission nodes
    mostly encountered when checking a dynamic node checking, for example per warp/kit permissions, and you create one with '+' in it, PEX will return false even when given.
    also, PM me if you want me to explain more reported bug reports like this.
     
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    Jonny3456

    Ok so do I have '+' in my perms? Are you talking to me? Please help me! Im not going to change I love Pex!
     
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    Director

    He is asking you, check your permission nodes and see if there is any "+" inside it
     
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    Jonny3456

    Hello? HELP!
     
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    Evilshallwin

    Stay calm. Alright, can you post the name of all your plugins that begin with "Essential"?

    Because the name of the JAR is EssentialsGroupManager, and not simply GroupManager.
     
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    Jonny3456

    Ok I have all of them.
     
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    Evilshallwin

    ? Please post all the names here.
     
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    Jonny3456

    Essentails Protect, EssentailsGeoip Essentails Chat , EssentailsGroupBrige, Essentails Protect, Essentails Spawn, XMP

    Would it be Essentails Group Bridge?

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    Evilshallwin

    Yes, that is likely the plugin creating the folder. Try deleting it and rerunning the server.
     
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    Jonny3456

    ok

    Can you try to fix this? And THANK YOU! :D

    It worked :D

    PLS help me with my other probs!

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