[INACTIVE][ADMN] SimpleSave v3.25 Simple automatic saving! [000] - Backups!

Discussion in 'Inactive/Unsupported Plugins' started by desmin88, Mar 11, 2011.

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    desmin88

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    Phealoon

    "and you're not smart enough to do "save-all" before "stop"

    Ok that's unnecessarily rude!
     
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    ichingpow

    No it isn't.
     
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    Phealoon

    @ichingpow


    The comment "Not Smart Enough" implies that people are stupid. If if some server owners FORGET to do this when they stop the server, it does not mean their stupid,.. just that they simply forgot.
     
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    ichingpow

    Some people are that stupid though.
     
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    fffizzz

    most people on here have no business running a server :)
     
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    Macximilian

    I don't know why you are ignoring all of my posts ... but this is simply the answer that helped me, too.
    Do you understand why? I think not, but I doesn't matter anymore.
    I believe it was simply wrong to post such a long error report to you with all of the details.
     
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    desmin88

    @Macximilian
    You're right, I don't know. I've done every which way testing this and nothing has come up.
    The only reason I can guess is that a player leaves and then join later and it restarts the cycle causing backups at a different time.
     
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    fffizzz

    I'm having a strange problem..
    I have my server restart every 6 hours through a cronjob. It sends a save-all to the server before it does a stop.
    I also have
    plugin.send.saveoff-on" to FALSE
    in my config

    People have been saying that after a restart, all work is lost. im not sure whats causing this, but it seems that world data isnt being saved.

    I installed 3.23 yesterday, however it still shows 3.22 in the console.

    Code:
    2011-07-08 03:04:45 [INFO] SimpleSave: 3.22 Initialized
    2011-07-08 03:04:48 [INFO] SimpleSave: Current save interval is 20 minute(s)
    2011-07-08 03:04:48 [INFO] SimpleSave: Current backup interval is 60 minute(s)
    2011-07-08 04:05:47 [INFO] SimpleSave: Deleting old backups
    2011-07-08 05:05:40 [INFO] SimpleSave: Deleting old backups
    2011-07-08 06:05:50 [SEVERE] SimpleSave: Error when copying files!
    2011-07-08 06:05:50 [SEVERE] SimpleSave: This means a plugin you have is not acting nice, or isn't threadsafe
    2011-07-08 06:05:50 [SEVERE] SimpleSave: Go to my thread and post the following information
    2011-07-08 06:05:50 [SEVERE]    at org.desmin88.simplesave.SimpleSave$BackupMethod.run(SimpleSave.java:151)
    2011-07-08 06:05:59 [INFO] SimpleSave: Deleting old backups
    2011-07-08 06:05:59 [SEVERE] SimpleSave: Error when copying files!
    2011-07-08 06:05:59 [SEVERE] SimpleSave: This means a plugin you have is not acting nice, or isn't threadsafe
    2011-07-08 06:05:59 [SEVERE] SimpleSave: Go to my thread and post the following information
    2011-07-08 06:05:59 [SEVERE]    at org.desmin88.simplesave.SimpleSave$BackupMethod.run(SimpleSave.java:151)
    2011-07-08 06:05:59 [INFO] SimpleSave: Deleting old backups
    2011-07-08 09:03:19 [INFO] SimpleSave: Powered down
    2011-07-08 09:04:18 [INFO] SimpleSave: Parts of config file are blank, but not null. Possible errors might happen.
    2011-07-08 09:04:18 [INFO] SimpleSave: DON'T! Post this 'warning' on the thread.
    2011-07-08 09:04:18 [INFO] SimpleSave: 3.22 Initialized
    
    some of the stuff with a grep of SimpleSave on server.log
     
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    Scizzr

    I suggest just using simoleons, as they work perfect for me. The developer could just replace &4 with ยง4 when reading the config file, but that's up to him/her.

    The way you enter a simoleon (on Windows, at least) is make sure number lock is on, then hold the left ALT key and press 0167 on the number pad. Let go of the left ALT key, and a simoleon is typed.

    Good luck.
     
  11. Has anyone figured out why SimpleSave saves sporadically? I have it set to every 20 min and backup every 60, but it seems random. Just keeps going off.. sigh..

    Now it's even saving twice in a row..

    EDIT by Moderator: merged posts, please use the edit button instead of double posting.
     
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    Macximilian

    @ImmortalOverlord: Read the last 2 pages of posts ... there should be an answer.
     
  13. @Macximilian
    So you're saying there is no answer? All I see is DOZENS of people reporting this bug, and the answer is: if you can't tell @desmin88 how to reproduce a bug, inwhich nobody knows WHY it happens, than he's just going to ignore it?

    So basically my answer is, wait until some OTHER dev, who can figure out WHY it keeps saving, to tell Desmin88 why, so he can look into it.. I get it, clearly, now.

    Maybe someone should copy their whole server, and all the files, and send it to Desmin88 so he can see how fucking wild this plugin is with saving every few minutes.
     
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    Macximilian

    The only thing I got was this statement:
    ...and the developer said that this may be a reason. But I've no idea if that's true...
    And the plugin author made no suggestion to fix this bug by himself I thought.
     
  15. Look, I already asked if the players leaving thing or no players in the server 2 pages back or so.

    It has no effect. It still saves like mad, even with those features disabled (No save on last player leave and no save when no players are on or whatever).

    So you're just wasting my time making me scour two pages, hoping for a fix that wasn't there.

    Edit; I'm removing SimpleSave until the dev or somebody figures out how to fix it. Hopefully Autosave works better
     
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    ACStache

    @ImmortalOverlord basically what desmin88 is saying is that it could be (maybe, not sure your specifics) that when the last person signs off it backs up again. are you around/watching when it happens? what is happening in the server log around the time of the sporadic back ups?

    edit: a bit late of a reply, sorry if this doesn't mean anything to you/help at all
     
  17. I turned that stuff off in my config.. I'll put the jar back in and get a bit of log for you to witness..
     
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    desmin88

    @ImmortalOverlord
    I've consulted with other devs, they seem to know no reason why it happens.
    I've tested on my local server and it doesn't seem to happen.
    I'd actually like someone to copy their server for me.
    But your rudeness is not needed. Many others don't have this error.
    I'd like an ENTIRE full log from the time your server starts to when you shut it down.
    My only conclusion is that this occurs because somebody leaves, and the backup/save timer stops. Then, somebody joins later, and it starts again, not appearing to match up with the next one.
     
  19. I just read through tons of pages and lots of people seem to have this error with it going nuts. Sorry bout the rudeness, but you seem kind of rude in a lot of your responses to other people who don't seem to have ANY idea why it's happening.

    No worries though, I just cleared my HUGE log and started a new one right before I restarted my server with a freshly installed SimpleSave.jar. The only thing I changed in the config was the backup history length. Once it starts going whacky, I'll zip up my whole entire server and send it to you.
     
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    desmin88

    @ImmortalOverlord
    The reason for the rudeness is the fact that people have multiply posted the same error. I know about it and am working on it. I await your server.log
    PM me and keep me posted. You're the only one who has taken initiative to atleast help fix the issue.
     
  21. The first few saves have been spot on.. But that doesn't really surprise me yet.. there hasn't been much activity right now.

    Maybe it just needed a fresh install? Idk.. I'm going to keep an eye on it every 10 min till it messes up and I'll be back to post. I'll def let you know
     
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    desmin88

  23. Spot on still. Sorry for the harsh response. I think the clean install made it work
     
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    Bronski

    Wait, what?? I was feeding you everything under the sun until, on page 33, you told me you "duly noted my problem but were going to ignore me from now on since you couldn't reproduce it." Nice response, btw. As if I was the only person with the problem or I was manufacturing it just to annoy you. And this was just last week. Short memory I guess.

    @ImmortalOverlord
    He doesn't know how to fix it (and I don't know who is to blame if anyone, but it doesn't matter). Give him the log but don't hold your breath. And if you keep posting, be prepared to be told you are going onto the ignore pile too. Feel free to look back at all of my posts. I was nothing but interested in helping him figure it out.

    *Bah-double-hmph*
     
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    Macximilian

    @Bronski: *sign*
     
  26. I believe I referred to other people having this problem.

    and yeah, it did come back last night, but I restarted server and it started working fine again. There is no telling why it started going bonkers again..

    But I know that it was going off every 10 min like CLOCKWORK. Then like 3-4 hours after, it started going haywire and started saving when people left (even though other people were online). Idk.. seems like this plugin likes to work well for a while then start getting all messed up. I guess I'll be zipping up everything... Don't know how effective that this is going to be as you kinda have to let it run for hours before the bug comes about, and I think it has SOMETHING to do with users leaving because it seems like after a few hours it's like it begins saving after every Connection Reset.

    So I could zip up this huge directory, I just need to know where to upload it to, and to forewarn you probably need to let it run for some hours and probably want to try to have some users coming and going to see it really go wacky.
     
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    ac14

    I have been using simple save on my server for a while but there is really is a problem with it.

    This link contains a section of my server log (when it started to save every few minutes for no reason)

    http://pastebin.com/HNUuq4Zh

    hopefully this gets sorted out soon because simple save works great when it works correctly.
     
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    desmin88

    @ImmortalOverlord
    Zip up the directory minus the world folder.
    Also, what have you set plugin.ignore.noplayers to?
    @ac14
    Config?
    @Bronski
    K.

    Also, probably found the issue. When you set plugin.ignore.noplayers to true, and the last person leaves, it doesn't cancel the save/backup cycle. Then when somebody joins again, it starts another cycle on top of the other one.
     
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    7eggert

    1) So having plugin.ignore.noplayers, this plugin saves the server config/world only if a player plays for more than <backup.interval> minutes? That would be bad, I intended to save every 8 hours ...

    Maybe you can
    a) do a backup if <backup.interval> has passed since the last backup
    but b) if no players have been active since the last backup, optionally start the new backup interval at the first login
    c) optionally do a backup on fixed hours, e.g. 4 o'clock in the morning

    2) If you pretend a backup happened in 1970, the plugin will do a backup on the first login (asuming you didn't specify several years as the backup interval^^), so the admin can see the first backup immediately.
     
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    Vincent1468

    im getting this error:
    Code:
    2011-07-11 07:14:47 [INFO] Beginning world backup
    2011-07-11 07:14:47 [SEVERE] SimpleSave: Error when copying files!
    2011-07-11 07:14:47 [SEVERE] SimpleSave: This means a plugin you have is not acting nice, or isn't threadsafe
    2011-07-11 07:14:47 [SEVERE] SimpleSave: Go to my thread and post the following information
    2011-07-11 07:14:47 [INFO] Illegal pattern character 'C'null
    2011-07-11 07:14:47 [SEVERE] java.lang.IllegalArgumentException: Illegal pattern character 'C'
    2011-07-11 07:14:47 [SEVERE]     at java.text.SimpleDateFormat.compile(Unknown Source)
    2011-07-11 07:14:47 [SEVERE]     at java.text.SimpleDateFormat.initialize(Unknown Source)
    2011-07-11 07:14:47 [SEVERE]     at java.text.SimpleDateFormat.<init>(Unknown Source)
    2011-07-11 07:14:47 [SEVERE]     at java.text.SimpleDateFormat.<init>(Unknown Source)
    2011-07-11 07:14:47 [SEVERE]     at org.desmin88.simplesave.Backup.getDate(Backup.java:84)
    2011-07-11 07:14:47 [SEVERE]     at org.desmin88.simplesave.Backup.backup(Backup.java:51)
    2011-07-11 07:14:47 [SEVERE]     at org.desmin88.simplesave.SimpleSave$BackupMethod.run(SimpleSave.java:151)
    2011-07-11 07:14:47 [SEVERE]     at java.util.TimerThread.mainLoop(Unknown Source)
    2011-07-11 07:14:47 [SEVERE]     at java.util.TimerThread.run(Unknown Source)
    2011-07-11 07:14:47 [SEVERE] SimpleSave: Error when copying files!
    2011-07-11 07:14:47 [SEVERE] SimpleSave: This means a plugin you have is not acting nice, or isn't threadsafe
    2011-07-11 07:14:47 [SEVERE] SimpleSave: Go to my thread and post the following information
    2011-07-11 07:14:47 [INFO] Illegal pattern character 'C'null
    2011-07-11 07:14:47 [SEVERE] java.lang.IllegalArgumentException: Illegal pattern character 'C'
    2011-07-11 07:14:47 [SEVERE]     at java.text.SimpleDateFormat.compile(Unknown Source)
    2011-07-11 07:14:47 [SEVERE]     at java.text.SimpleDateFormat.initialize(Unknown Source)
    2011-07-11 07:14:47 [SEVERE]     at java.text.SimpleDateFormat.<init>(Unknown Source)
    2011-07-11 07:14:47 [SEVERE]     at java.text.SimpleDateFormat.<init>(Unknown Source)
    2011-07-11 07:14:47 [SEVERE]     at org.desmin88.simplesave.Backup.getDate(Backup.java:84)
    2011-07-11 07:14:47 [SEVERE]     at org.desmin88.simplesave.Backup.backup(Backup.java:51)
    2011-07-11 07:14:47 [SEVERE]     at org.desmin88.simplesave.SimpleSave$BackupMethod.run(SimpleSave.java:151)
    2011-07-11 07:14:47 [SEVERE]     at java.util.TimerThread.mainLoop(Unknown Source)
    2011-07-11 07:14:47 [SEVERE]     at java.util.TimerThread.run(Unknown Source)
    2011-07-11 07:14:47 [INFO] Ending world backup
    can someone help me?
    i have the following plugins installed:
    BBrother
    Commandbook
    craftbook
    easyban
    iChat
    iConomy
    iConomyChestshop
    itemdetector
    lazyroad
    LWC
    movecraft
    MyHome
    NoCheat
    Openinv
    Permissions
    SimpleSave
    Spawnmob
    Worldedit
    WorldGuard
     
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    7eggert

    (I'm not the author)
    You could try removing all plugins, and if this helps, adding them one by one until you get this error again. This will help identifying the cause of the error.
     

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