When will Bukkit be updated for Minecraft 1.5?

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    EvilSeph

    Update:
    We have completed the update to Minecraft 1.5_02 (and have had it done for a while now) and are working out a few issues before we promote a recommended build. A TEST ONLY build is available but we highly recommend that you wait until we promote a Recommended Build before putting it on your production server.

    You can find the latest test build on ci.bukkit.org. Please note, though, that if you don't already know how to get it, you probably shouldn't be using it. Only Recommended Builds have gone through extensive testing. Anything else could result in unforeseen problems like Bukkit eating your cake or your world. You have been warned.

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    Common Problems/Questions:
    What's the first build that works with Minecraft 1.5_02
    The first CraftBukkit build that works with Minecraft 1.5_02 was made available 2 days ago and is build #689. However, it is HIGHLY RECOMMENDED that if you are running the test builds, you always stay up to date as we usually fix bugs, exploits and improve stability.

    I downloaded build 714 but got some other build!
    You're probably reading the version string incorrectly.

    Here's an example version string:
    git-Bukkit-0.0.0-686-g71ef92a-b714jnks (MC: 1.5_02)

    This version string is for build 714, as you can tell by the "b714jnks" at the end.

    Whenever I use a plugin that changes blocks, I can't see the changes until I reconnect!
    We had an issue with blocks not updating properly but this has since been fixed from build #707. This bug affected plugins that changed blocks in game, like WorldEdit.

    Help! My console keeps getting spammed with this error whenever someone gets kicked or disconnects and it lags the server!
    This is a bug we've fixed from build #701 onwards.

    I can't build or destroy anything! Help!?
    The common cause of this issue is a client mod called Single Player Commands, please try uninstalling all your client mods and seeing if this fixes the issue. If this is the case, then it isn't a Bukkit issue and you should contact the author of the mods you use.

    Every time I connect to the server and load a sign, the client crashes. What's wrong?
    Minecraft 1.5 has added limits for sign text. Plugin developers commonly used longer sign text to store extra data or add colours to signs. This is no longer possible, so we now cut off any line in a sign longer than 15 characters (as of build #712).

    I get kicked when flying and am told that flying hasn't been enabled on this server. How do I enable flying?
    Minecraft 1.5 added anti-flying checks. You can enable flying by setting allow-flight=true in server.properties.

    Whenever I try to send a long message in chat, it gets cut off at roughly two lines.
    A limit on chat has been added with Minecraft 1.5. This is one of the issues we're hoping to address before we promote a Recommended Build.

    Help! When I use the CLI arguments to set ports (or any setting), the server always starts up on 25565 or ignores the setting!
    There was a bug that prevented the server from reading settings passed through CLI arguments. This has since been fixed from build #706 onwards.

    The easiest fix for most problems is to update to the latest Bukkit test build.

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    As is the case with every Minecraft update, we saw our usual influx of extra traffic from people wondering if we have a build of CraftBukkit working with the Minecraft update seconds after release (seriously). Usually, you'd see a pretty standard post from me stating we're working on an update and providing the usual advice that you aren't forced to update. However, this time there was a distinct lack of communication from the team regarding the status of the update, other than the usual "we're working on it". Couple this with the slow development occurring lately and we can forgive people for posting the expected "is Bukkit dead?" or "what's going on?" posts. I hope this post will explain everything.

    Will there be a CraftBukkit for Minecraft 1.5?
    Given the reports of showstopping bugs present in 1.5, there's a high chance a new bugfix update for Minecraft will be out tomorrow or even several times this week. As a result, it is unlikely we will be releasing a 1.5 compatible build and, instead, will be waiting for something stable to work with.

    Due to the nature of the project and the methods we use to provide Bukkit for Minecraft, any update - no matter how small - requires us to figure out the mapping of obfuscated classes and update our code. This takes a lot of time and work, so hopefully you understand our decision.

    Having said all this, we recommend that you stay on 1.4 for a while until the patch storm subsides if your server depends on Bukkit.

    Further, I wanted to apologise for the lack of communication regarding this update. I was really hesitant announcing this since it would only serve to disappoint and annoy people, however, I noticed quite a few supportive comments on here and IRC that pushed me to post this announcement because the people that have supported us through everything deserve it.

    Why are things so quiet? Why is the update taking so long?
    Before I answer this, I think it is appropriate to cover what usually happens when we're aware of an update coming soon. Whenever we recieve word of a Minecraft update (which, contrary to popular belief, is generally the same time as everyone else), we place all development in the Bukkit project under a code freeze to prepare for the update and make things easier. That being said, last week thursday we were expecting a Minecraft update and appropriately placed the project under a code freeze. Unfortunately, the update was delayed and pushed to the next week, resulting in a much longer code freeze than normally occurs. Naturally, this lead to activity within the project seeming critically lower than it really was and prompted some people to post the inevitable "what's going on?" thread.

    On top of the code freeze, we're working on some larger changes to Bukkit or CraftBukkit that require quite a bit of time to complete and will only be commited to the public code when they are ready. Quite often you'll find that, while you don't see any updates, we definitely are still working hard programming awesome things and appreciate your patience and support.

    So why is this update taking so long? After we had updated for Minecraft 1.4, we came across some annoying chunk related issues and bugs that were incredibly difficult to pinpoint due to confusion with the new obfuscated names mappings (d -> c and c -> d). Naturally, these kinds of issues were unacceptable for the project and we immediately got to work on improving our update process to avoid issues of this nature in the future. While I think we can all agree with this decision, the unfortunate result is the delay we're currently facing since we're not yet done improving the process. The good news is, we're nearly done improving our update handling process and the wait will definitely be worth it come future updates.

    Thank you for your patience and understanding!
     
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    Gary Heaton

    Come on people let's be patient better to have good code than a steaming pile of dog .........
     
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    ravenz

    Not. I just downgraded my game 4 hours ago and then upgraded to see if 1.5_01 was out. Nothing. I downgraded AGAIN and just updated again and realized it was just released
     
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    slay_mithos

    1.5_02 is only for servers, you won't have it for client...
     
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    Mr fantapants

    this noobish fella thanks you....
     
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    Acru

    I would agree with both the avoiding this in the future and taking more time to do so~
    Having these sorts of problems creep [creeper] into the code is trouble for everyone involved. :3
     
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    Mentioum

    I know the issues... I'm ok with it. The file isn't on my server for that reason and I didn't post a direct link to the file from here for that reason.

    All it is is a guide... and a link to a file host. If they wanted to chase me... well they'd need to use the same lawyers stating the same laws they use to take down torrent trackers... and you know how long those cases take and how much money they cost. I'm well aware of what is required by both halves in that kind of a situation.

    Considering it's only temporary I'm doubting Mojang will take legal action. Ez has my Skype so if she/Notch want the link removed they can pm me.

    Personally I think considering its a temporarily linked to bin folder they wont mind. Especially since it probably helps their game image more than it hinders it due to online players being grateful for it too who also happen to be the most avid Minecrafters amongst all purchasers.

    As far as bukkit and hmod before that... it kind of proves my point - it's still running and it will be around a lot longer than one downgrade guide.

    Let's not be petty here I know you and WelshPixie have a thing about LPMC or maybe just me, who knows, I don't even understand why we aren't on good terms. I've never had anything against either of you or MCWB and in fact often sent you my solutions to problems with minecraft servers (whether you chose to use them or not). I also enjoyed playing with you guys tonnes on your private server so I have no clue. Anyway although off topic this is something I would like to resolve at some point.

    In my eyes at least the users and purchasers should come first...and Mojang would agree with me. They won't do anything in the short term against something which is doing nothing but improving their public image.

    The downgrade guide will remain there for all the purchasers who require it until there is no need to downgrade unless Mojang ask for it to be removed. In which case... I will kindly oblige.

    http://lpminecraft.com/forums/showwiki.php?title=Tutorials:How to Downgrade your Minecraft&&highlight=downgrade


    Sincerely,

    Mentioum
     
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    CHIKINS!!!

    If everyone's tired of waiting just get a vanilla server to play on until the update with bukkit.:cool:
     
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    Unscrewed

    @Mentioum Well said, well said! :)
    /agree
     
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    SamiAji

    Doesn't Notch know that many servers use bukkit? This is a dang joke.. I don't understand why they don't develop a way that developers can communicate with them to solve issues that MC creates with their add-ons. I can't believe all thats going on.. because of the darn 1.5 update, almost every server will be down.

    On my server, I depend on WorldGuard and MANY other plugins to keep the server safe. Since bukkit might be down until a newer stable update comes out, there will be no servers to play(Atleast if many server owners are quite skeptical, like me)..

    Looks like ill just host a map to grief on and survive until this issue is fixed.. this is tragic ;'(
     
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    Rodle26

    A lot of servers do use bukkit and it is tragic that it does take this long for a update.
     
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    darkdukey

    Thanks for the great work~
     
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    ObsidianGaming

    Let me be one of the first few to say... Bukkit has given players a chance to play a Game that is still in BETA (Yeah not the actual final game) and helping us with updating quiet frequently for almost no profit.
     
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    Unscrewed

    One of the first? This post is the same as 9/10 other posts here.
     
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    KingYavi

    Hey, glad to notive that 1.5_01 is out. Hoping it is a more stable update to work with.
     
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    ObsidianGaming

    No what I mean is that i am just explaining why people thank them, because people are really confused, at-least the ones who get mad at the Bukkit Mods'
     
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    l104693

    Thank you! Keep up the good work! :)
     
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    ObsidianGaming

  19. any chance of getting told if your going to make it for this minecraft version (1.5_02 server)
     
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    rhx123

    Have we any word on whether the bukkit team are going to be using 1.5_02 or you guys still waiting for a stabler relase?
     
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    Raspberry

    Notch is too busy with Portal 2 to give two shits about releasing a stable build or bug testing.
    Look at this smug bastard's tweet right after releasing 1.5...
    http://twitter.com/#!/notch/status/60338131517444096


    Every release they introduce more bugs than they fix... even during bug fix releases... just look at the version history:
    http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Version_history


    It's not a company as much as a hobby funded by the wallets of millions of supporters :)


    heh

    The people developing Bukkit and plugins are the ones who deserve our thanks, praise and sympathy...
     
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    tonym

    We know you are doing your best Bukkit team. Keep up the good work.
     
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    ray landers

    so the guy is not allowed to take a breather once in a while.

    and people call me a nut.
     
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    Gamoc

    Incorrect on a few levels.

    1. Notch finished Portal 2 yesterday, after he released 1.5
    2. Notch has since released 1.5_01
    3. Notch has since released 1.5_02 (a server update)
    4. 1.5_01 is plenty stable. I haven't had a single problem since I updated to it, for example.
    5. That tweet is clearly tongue-in-cheek.

    Also, the post above mine.
     
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    Stefano

    It is not his job to continue to update Minecraft, he and his company choose to. They could turn around tomorrow and fix all the bugs and release no new features. I am happy to wait two days a month for a bucket full of new stuff than have the same game for every day of the year.

    Also, are the Bukkit team using 1.5_02? Keep up the good work Bukkit team!
     
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    Raspberry



    Everybody's entitled to a break... especially the Swedish Social Democrats ;)


    However, I disagree with handing your customers a pile of dog shit and then say "cya later! lOlZ! I'll be unavailable while you guys figure out the things I didn't test."


    As always the criticism is tongue and cheek -- but I don't envy the people working on Bukkit for having to decipher the late night coding marathons of Notch.


    I do however appreciate their efforts and the Bukkit project.... when Mojang abandons Minecraft, this group will be the salvation.
     
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    rhx123

    Don't know about you, but i'd have been happy waiting for notch to finish derping about with portal 2, and having a properly tested 1.5 than the rushed update.
    I agree, he should have a break. But doing it just after releasing a major and untested update is silly.
    There's no doubt that 1.5 was rushed an not tested as much as it should have been.
    Now notch has made mojang into a grown up company, he should take the responsibilities that come with it.
     
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    ats1080

    not when hes making the amount of money hes making. 9338 people have bought the game in the last 24 hours. thats 139603.10. IN THE LAST 24 HOURS!!! if i was him i would have a dev team and be working 24/7 he has something going for him here and it looks like hes gonna let it bite him in the ass
     
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    swedish2011

    Bukkit <3
     
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    Hellbeast58

    too bad it was about 12 hours til the beta 1.5_01 came out
     
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    typhoonwes

    Love Bukkit... MineCraft is nothing with out it.

    BUT this sucks... i wish we can use a simple version of CraftBukkit, so we can use WorldEdit / wordedit / CommandBook and Residence, LogBlock, or Bigbrother... This way we can protect our world.

    can we at least get something like the working????
     
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