How many player can I host?

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    macguy8

    Hello! I'm new here (actually registering an account) but I've been reading the bukkit forums for about 2 months now! Anyway, I recently upgraded my server to a dedicated box, so I'm just wondering how many players I can host. The link to the server I have is: http://www.limestonenetworks.com/dedicated_servers/order.html?id=53. I upgraded it to. 8GB RAM though. I have 6GB allocated, and am only going to run a team speak server, and a minecraft server on the machine. Thanks!
     
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    Scotty1207

    I may be wrong but they recommend atleast 100MB of RAM per slot. As for the rest of the spec I'm not to sure.
     
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    macguy8

    Okay! I'm more concerned about the processor though. I posted this mainly trying to find out if I should upgrade to a 3.4 processor instead of a 3.2
     
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    Jonchun

    RAM isn't the limiting factor. However, with a setup like that I would say it comes down to not having enough Ram, and disk io limits. Around 50-75 players is when most users feel the need to switch over to SSDs. However, I've heard it's possible to run up to 150 players or so on regular SATA HDDs. (@Clinton)

    Anyways, assuming you don hit disk io bottlenecks, you should be good with a player cap of around 150 on your server. (Including plugins) you'll probably want a scrip to automate server restarts every 12 hours as your ram is quite low.

    The E3-1230 should be fine for running a single server.

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    macguy8

    Thanks! Do you think it would be better to just buy a lot of ram for a ram disk, or a decent SSD?

    Would it be worth it to upgrade to a 3.4ghz or would the money be best used getting enough ram to run a ramdisk?

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    Jonchun

    It will probably cost you an extra 15$ or so for .2ghz. Not worth it. Just spend it on upgrading to an SSD. RAMDisks are volatile and often cause more problems than they are worth. They can also cause lag when you're backing up the worlds from RAMDisk -> HDD. Just grab a SSD and you'll be much better off.
     
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    macguy8

    Thanks! I'll go contact my host about it now. Oh, how many do you think I could host on this: https://servercraft.co/dedicated-servers/amd-opteron-4226-order/ - note: it would be a almost CTF server, no no block breaking, and only 5 plugins

    Hmm... Which would you think would be better:
    128GB Samsung 830 SSD or 32GB Intel X25-E SSD...

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    Jonchun

    If you aren't worried about disk space, the Intel would definitely be better. That's an enterprise grade SSD.

    I would suggest just staying away from the AMD Opterons for minecraft servers. You get much better performance with the Intel series. ESPECIALLY if you're running a E3-1230, you'll way outperform the AMD Opteron you're looking at. (Some people disagree, but I think most will agree)
     
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    macguy8

    For the SSD - well, it's mainly the price... My host charges 14/mo for the Samsung, and 43/mo for the Intel

    And okay, thanks for about the servercraft. How many players do you think it could host anyway?
     
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    Jonchun

    Yea as I said, the Intel is an enterprise grade SSD. It's going to be expensive. However, even the Samsung 830 SSDs will perform fine in your case. I use them for the shared minecraft hosting plans I offer at Chunex.
     
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    macguy8

    Okay thanks! If I were to get the Samsung SSD what do you think my max players would be?
     
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    Jonchun

    It would be the same as mentioned above. around 150. You can probably handle much more though. I usually quote low numbers because I prefer to keep everything at extremely safe levels. It's not a good idea to have a single minecraft server running more than 100 players anyways. It gets messy. If you really have a server that big, it's probably better to split it into separate servers.
     
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    macguy8

    Thanks for all your help! 2 things though: what would the difference between Intel or Samsung SSD's? And, besides disk IO, what would the limiting factor be for more people? I'm assuming it's just that having that many people is just impractical from a technological standpoint?
     
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    Jonchun

    Well one, it's technically possible to have tons of people online depending on how your server is optimized. However, what I mean by impractical is administrating such a server. You will need a dedicated team of staff members who KNOW what they are doing (not just volunteer players who have played for a long time). On top of that, the server itself gets cluttered and the map is so big no one can really build anywhere. As for disk IO, once you've upgraded to a SSD, there really isn't much else to do. As for the difference between the enterprise grade SSDs and regular SSDs, it's down to a matter of quality. Sorta like a Lexus vs a Porsche. There are other differences, but you can go look that up. As for your other limiting factors for more people, if you insist on having such a huge single server, it would come down to RAM. You're going to need a lot more than 8GB of RAM if you want to host a large amount of people.
     
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    macguy8

    Wow, that is a lot of text there xD anyway, thanks for advice on the SSDs! Just something for further down the road, if I were to have a ramdisk and back that up to a SSD instead on a normal drive, would that help lag causes by it, or is the lag coming from the ramdisk having to be read entirely?

    P.S. please excuse the improper grammar, I'm typing this on a tiny iPod
     
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    Jonchun

    I'm fairly certain the lag will be caused by the extra processing power needed for regular backups. I may be wrong though. I'm not very experienced in the RAMDisk field. (I've always settled for SSDs).
     
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    macguy8

    Okay thanks! I'll make another thread when I may need a ramdisk. Thanks for all your help, I appreciate it! :D
     
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