Copyright Infringment Griefing Videos.

Discussion in 'Bukkit Discussion' started by CreeperInside, Apr 8, 2012.

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    CreeperInside

    I opened my server about 5-6 months ago, bought a domain for it, etc. Until, recently a bunch of "TeamAVO wannabe's" griefed my server and posted some videos on youtube of them doing so. It's not the griefing that I care about, that was easily fixed with one command lmao, it's the fact that these guys think they've actually completed something.

    According to Australian law, when you create something, it's already copyrighted. Would i have the right to flag these youtube videos and get them deleted for Copyright Infringement?
     
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    hatstand

    Fair use lol.
     
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    CreeperInside

    But if they're using my material in an offense manner or in a way that's deliberately putting my server down, can't i get it taken down?
     
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    TheFluffey

    As a youtube partner, I know you are completely wrong there (Just like the 99% of other kiddies who think they know fair-use)...

    In order for their content to be fair-use, your video must have double the time in content. In other words, if 5 mins of the video was griefing and the other five talking about it, it would be fair-use. However, if it is just a video of them griefing the whole time, their original content does not fulfill fair-use. You can flag it.
     
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    hatstand

    And the entire basis of this discussion is that your specific layout of blocks, ie, data created using software that isn't yours, can even be copyrighted in the first place.

    Oh, and your definition of fair use is wrong anywhere outside of youtube.
     
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    bluehasia

    easiest thing is to flag griefer videos.


    and two...cant we flag these people for probably being under 13 with a youtube account XD
     
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    Toxic__Waste

    sorry mate you dont own any material. technically minecraft owns all rights to every server you are just allowed to use it
     
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    TheBeast808

    No... He created the buildings on it, they are his intellectual property. That's like saying an artist can't copyright his photo because he used Photoshop to alter it, and Photoshop is copy righted.
     
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    Giant

    You can flag these videos as "cyber bullying" which in the current age, is about just as bad if not worse then copyright stuff! :)
     
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    stuntguy3000

    Personally I hate the YouTube Flagging system, too general.

    I mean really too general.
     
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    Toxic__Waste

    placing blocks on a minecraft server is hardly what i called intellectual work it be saying i cant go and watch a you tube video and copy what i saw there onto my server there is no copyright at any given time anyone of his members can video his server and post it... wouldnt it be their work...you run a public server and even if australia said its already copyrighted you tube dont have to follow their laws .get your facts strait also photography is very iffy ground..you can copyright some work but you cant copyright a photo of someone elses work..still lots of holes in that area..like if there is a person in the photo you need their permission to make money..

    quote from original op
    According to Australian law, when you create something, it's already copyrighted. Would i have the right to flag these youtube videos and get them deleted for Copyright Infringement?

    you need a copyright serial number or registry number to even complain so good luck
     
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    bluehasia

    griefers are really just that cyber bullies. complety agree with this
     
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    Toxic__Waste

    half of the minecraft servers out there allow griefing i dont know how they can be considered cyber bullies when its legal game play for alot of servers.We do have minecraft themselves to thank for griefers when playing minecraft cant have one without the other
     
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    CreeperInside

    I just got this idea from another Australia server in the first place, that i was a mod on, the admins there were in the same place and were able to get the video taken down for copyright, so i guess you're wrong. And Youtube do have to follow Australian laws as with every country that the copyrighted material belongs in, and since I legally own the domain name and pay for the server, etc. I guess I do have a right to get the video taken down.
     
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    Toxic__Waste

    no your wrong they only have to remove it from australia the rest of the world still sees it

    There is no such thing as an “international copyright” that will automatically protect an author’s writings throughout the world. Protection against unauthorized use in a particular country depends on the national laws of that country. However, most countries offer protection to foreign works under certain conditions that have been greatly simplified by international copyright treaties and conventions. There are two principal international copyright conventions, the Berne Convention for the Protection of Literary and Artistic Works (Berne Convention) and the Universal Copyright Convention (UCC).

    source
    http://www.copyright.gov/fls/fl100.html

    EDIT by Moderator: merged posts, please use the edit button instead of double posting.
     
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    CreeperInside

    So from what you're saying, whenever a company wants to remove a copyrighted video in America, I should be able to view it in Australia? Nope, Youtube will just remove it.
     
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    Toxic__Waste

    havent you ever see on you tube

    this material may not be show in certain countries

    you tube can block content from anyone and anywhere

    you should be happy id call it free advertising
     
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    TheBeast808

    Any original creation by a person is their intellectual property according to US copyright laws. Infringing their copyright is illegal, and YouTube must conform to US law because it operates out of America. His building is an original creation, and is therefor his intellectual property. That's why many video game companies can file DMCA reports against unfavorable videos of their game on YouTube. I know Jagex(Runescape) does this to videos of people demonstrating glitches/hacks/cheats on their game. The same would apply to people recording on your server if the creation is your intellectual property.
     
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    Toxic__Waste

    i dont know if this is allowed here but see if you can see this video i can



    says its blocked in australia

    Any original creation by a person is their intellectual property according to US copyright laws. Infringing their copyright is illegal, and YouTube must conform to US law because it operates out of America. His building is an original creation, and is therefor his intellectual property. That's why many video game companies can file DMCA reports against unfavorable videos of their game on YouTube. I know Jagex(Runescape) does this to videos of people demonstrating glitches/hacks/cheats on their game. The same would apply to people recording on your server if the creation is your intellectual property.


    only if there are making money or defaming or slander and if you filed your work
    you cant claim copyright with out going through the procedures to make sure it is original work
    especially since this is a game where there are 300,000 servers whos to say its his work and not copied
    im for protecting peoples work but you can compare this to intellectual property he dont own minecraft which im sure they have copyrights on their work.

    EDIT by Moderator: merged posts, please use the edit button instead of double posting.
     
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    bluehasia

    if greifing is part of the server rules then its not greifing because it is permitted way of play
     
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    Toxic__Waste

    griefing is the name of it
    whether allowed or not its just a way of saying you got punked lol
     
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    hatstand

    From Minecraft's Terms of Service:
     
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    vapid2323

    Guys, dont be stoped by what you think the law is, talk to a lawyer dont talk with the poeple on Bukkit lol.
     
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    Tanite

    If you fixed it quickly, and they wasted time doing it, then you already won. Unless you have lots of cash to get a lawyer, I would instead focus on tightening up security or promoting more people to help you keep an eye out for this type of thing.
     
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    Knight Hawk3

    Thats not blocked in Australia. I can see it? (Australian)
     
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    Orcem12

    Youtube pages you might want to read before taking action:
    http://www.youtube.com/t/copyright_education


    Think of it this way, if someone copies a plugin; which is intellectual material people become angry. UNLESS this plugin is inactive. But if someone copies a plugin while it's still in development, it's a huge "crime" if you will. You have the right to remove videos on youtube of your server's destruction if you so choose. But as previously stated, the video must be violating certain rules. Take a look at that page, I've read it myself and Youtube's copyright education is really fantastic.

    Um this kinda scared me but it's pretty funny:
     
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    TheBeast808

    False. They don't need to be making money.
    Because of the number of blocks and the number of possible combinations of those blocks in a 3d space is huge, it's fairly easy for any one house to be a completely unique house. There are hundreds of thousands, if not millions of drawings, photos, and paintings, but it's still easy to tell when somebody is infringing your copyright.

    I don't think you understand. Anything you create that is original is intellectual property. A building you originally create is just as protected under the law as code.
     
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    Toxic__Waste

    I like minecraft I do own a server but do you hear your self its a game its not real you cant touch the building you cant sell the building well you can try selling schematics but nee to show a picture to sell and why buy ill copy,and how do you prove you made it and didnt //load //paste ...you cant they cant no one can so plz stop with the quoting of me... if you can prove to me you made a building in minecraft then talk, other wise i say you wanded it.prove otherwise loool (shakes head)
     
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    TheBeast808

    You can't touch a song. You can't touch code. Do you hear yourself? Things don't need to be tangible to be copyrighted. Also, you can prove your building is original the same way you prove lyrics are original, or that code is original and not just copied from another project.
     
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    Toxic__Waste

    you can compare music you can compare codes you can compare paintings you can compare writings you can compare lyrics
    Really how are you gonna compare or prove you made a building in minecraft
    i also contacted the copyright.gov here and asked them if i can copyright a creation in minecraft I had to go over what minecraft is and after i told the rep he said idk gave me a link said it cost 375.00 and he told me to submit pictures and a logo and said i had to pick a code that i thought it was under and he told me there is no guarantee that it will pass for copyright
    he did look over the records of minecraft and said he had no records and told me the search goes back to 1978

    and i never said you cant touch a song or code
    all i said is there no way to prove its his yours my work in a game called minecraft

    so you go get a lawyer and pay his ass to try to get a might be your intellectual work removed off you tube
    and again dont quote me if you dont know what your talking about --still shaking head--
     
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