[WIP] Guardian - the final replacement for BB, LogBlock and HawkEye

Discussion in 'WIP and Development Status' started by oliverw92, Aug 27, 2011.

  1. Offline

    superdupernova

    dev.bukkit.org profile:
    CFUSERNAME
    My Plugins (CFCOUNT)
    Minecraft account:
    MCUSERNAME
    Logblock works, edragy.
     
  2. Offline

    Celtic Minstrel

    My BukkitDev Profile
    My Plugins (6)
    dev.bukkit.org profile:
    CFUSERNAME
    My Plugins (CFCOUNT)
    Minecraft account:
    MCUSERNAME
    So, correct me if I'm wrong... BigBrother is dead, HawkEye and LogBlock are updating to 1.2, and Guardian will likely be released vaguely soonish?
     
  3. Offline

    jaboy

    dev.bukkit.org profile:
    CFUSERNAME
    My Plugins (CFCOUNT)
    Minecraft account:
    MCUSERNAME
    logblock is (properly) dead too .... look at its page
     
  4. Offline

    Raycrash

    dev.bukkit.org profile:
    CFUSERNAME
    My Plugins (CFCOUNT)
    Minecraft account:
    MCUSERNAME
    So only hawkeye is left over ?
    Hawkeye seemed somewhat outdated ? Oo
     
  5. Offline

    Jacek

    My BukkitDev Profile
    My Plugins (14)
    dev.bukkit.org profile:
    CFUSERNAME
    My Plugins (CFCOUNT)
    Minecraft account:
    MCUSERNAME
    It's still being maintained. It will die when Bukkit dies.
     
  6. Offline

    Celtic Minstrel

    My BukkitDev Profile
    My Plugins (6)
    dev.bukkit.org profile:
    CFUSERNAME
    My Plugins (CFCOUNT)
    Minecraft account:
    MCUSERNAME
    It won't die when Guardian is released, then? :p
     
  7. Offline

    Jacek

    My BukkitDev Profile
    My Plugins (14)
    dev.bukkit.org profile:
    CFUSERNAME
    My Plugins (CFCOUNT)
    Minecraft account:
    MCUSERNAME
    Which ever comes first I guess. Honestly I don’t see Guardian ever being released.
     
    Don Redhorse and Tadas159 like this.
  8. Offline

    jaboy

    dev.bukkit.org profile:
    CFUSERNAME
    My Plugins (CFCOUNT)
    Minecraft account:
    MCUSERNAME
    then please tell me what the big red text on the logblock's page means :eek:
     
  9. Offline

    Jacek

    My BukkitDev Profile
    My Plugins (14)
    dev.bukkit.org profile:
    CFUSERNAME
    My Plugins (CFCOUNT)
    Minecraft account:
    MCUSERNAME
    Fine


    The first paragraph is an explanation that LogBlock will not be ported to the mcAPI, while there is no exact definition of this it is fair to assume tat it refers to the official mod API that the Bukkit team have been employed to produce. So what this means is that LogBlock will not be updated for the new mod system, it does not mention anything about it not being updated for future versions of Bukkit. Then the fact that there has been an update released for 1.2 suggests than the developer is committed to maintaining it, but not necessarily adding new features.

    The second paragraph offers an reason as to why this is happening,
     
  10. Offline

    md_5

    My BukkitDev Profile
    My Plugins (8)
    dev.bukkit.org profile:
    CFUSERNAME
    My Plugins (CFCOUNT)
    Minecraft account:
    MCUSERNAME
    @ everyone
    I made another commit this morning, looking at really really pushing for a release
    *experienced* hands are welcome to help out. (that means you celtic!)
     
    SuperPyroManiac likes this.
  11. Offline

    Ghost3po

    dev.bukkit.org profile:
    CFUSERNAME
    My Plugins (CFCOUNT)
    Minecraft account:
    MCUSERNAME
    Is there any type of tracker for the dev progress of guardian?
     
  12. Offline

    Celtic Minstrel

    My BukkitDev Profile
    My Plugins (6)
    dev.bukkit.org profile:
    CFUSERNAME
    My Plugins (CFCOUNT)
    Minecraft account:
    MCUSERNAME
    md_5 – I have no idea what sort of help you'd need? Also I've forgotten where the source is. I do want to support this in SimpleSignEdit, incidentally, so having it released would be a good thing.
     
  13. Offline

    kuyan

    dev.bukkit.org profile:
    CFUSERNAME
    My Plugins (CFCOUNT)
    Minecraft account:
    MCUSERNAME
    Please, please, please, shut up. It's getting so annoying that messages such as this one will soon follow.

    1) Are you paying anything for this to be released?
    2) Have you given anything to the developers specifically for this plugin?
    3) Could you do a better job?

    If you answered 'yes' to any of those questions, then you have a right to complain about Guardian being released. Otherwise, please kindly STFU.

    If it bothers you that much, go learn Java. I'm sure md_5 would appreciate some help.
     
  14. Offline

    bjoen

    dev.bukkit.org profile:
    CFUSERNAME
    My Plugins (CFCOUNT)
    Minecraft account:
    MCUSERNAME
    I'm in the beginner state of Java programming so I can't help you there, but I would love to help you guys to test it for bugs. :)

    md_5
     
  15. Offline

    Daniel Heppner

    dev.bukkit.org profile:
    CFUSERNAME
    My Plugins (CFCOUNT)
    Minecraft account:
    MCUSERNAME
    Bukkit's going to be dead by the time you guys finish this.
     
  16. Offline

    Jacek

    My BukkitDev Profile
    My Plugins (14)
    dev.bukkit.org profile:
    CFUSERNAME
    My Plugins (CFCOUNT)
    Minecraft account:
    MCUSERNAME
    That may be true, but all this will really need is a few of the core events (block break, place etc). I'm fairly sure the new API will have those too.
     
    Daniel Heppner likes this.
  17. Offline

    md_5

    My BukkitDev Profile
    My Plugins (8)
    dev.bukkit.org profile:
    CFUSERNAME
    My Plugins (CFCOUNT)
    Minecraft account:
    MCUSERNAME
    I pushed the block events last night, I need DiddiZ to help me out with the rollback code and the other data type inserting code:
    https://github.com/Guardian-Security/
     
  18. Offline

    tylercheez02

    dev.bukkit.org profile:
    CFUSERNAME
    My Plugins (CFCOUNT)
    Minecraft account:
    MCUSERNAME
    Dude,Iv been working on my own anti-griefing plugins,but this,made me sh#t my pants.Kepp it up!
     
  19. Offline

    OrtwinS

    dev.bukkit.org profile:
    CFUSERNAME
    My Plugins (CFCOUNT)
    Minecraft account:
    MCUSERNAME
    *Comes back out of an long time of hibernation, because of MC1.2*
    *Yaaawn...*

    Oi, I still will have to use LB, it is starting to feel similar to using a pre WWII oldtimer car for daily work traffic...
    (I know! That feeling comes fast with the rate at whitch plugins usually get updates/replacements, but still...)

    Another question though, is there already a Guardian Paypal donation thingy?
    Maybe that will inspire/motivate the devs :) (out of guild or otherwise, as long we are getting somewhere).

    [I wrote a lengthy series of arguments here about why and how this disappoints me with a load of opinions and shit, but that is not gonna help either, at least the impact graph shows the project is still alive.]
     
  20. Offline

    md_5

    My BukkitDev Profile
    My Plugins (8)
    dev.bukkit.org profile:
    CFUSERNAME
    My Plugins (CFCOUNT)
    Minecraft account:
    MCUSERNAME
    /me prepares official statement for later
     
  21. Offline

    Celtic Minstrel

    My BukkitDev Profile
    My Plugins (6)
    dev.bukkit.org profile:
    CFUSERNAME
    My Plugins (CFCOUNT)
    Minecraft account:
    MCUSERNAME
    You never did answer my question...? Regarding what sort of help is needed?
     
  22. Offline

    Cyris69

    dev.bukkit.org profile:
    CFUSERNAME
    My Plugins (CFCOUNT)
    Minecraft account:
    MCUSERNAME
    password being blank isn't by choice :( the server im hosted though uses an open DB
     
  23. Offline

    md_5

    My BukkitDev Profile
    My Plugins (8)
    dev.bukkit.org profile:
    CFUSERNAME
    My Plugins (CFCOUNT)
    Minecraft account:
    MCUSERNAME
    Atm the goal is block rollback, I wish DiddiZ could help.
    Next goal after that is inserting 'exotic' data types in to the db
     
  24. Offline

    Tanite

    dev.bukkit.org profile:
    CFUSERNAME
    My Plugins (CFCOUNT)
    Minecraft account:
    MCUSERNAME
    Oboy... the logger plugins are falling left and right, and NoCheat is done. Things are gettin' real up in here!

    Hawkeye still does an O-K job for me, but its rollback is sometimes flakey (or just doesn't work). Some days I'm really thankful that I've kept my server small...

    Kudos to those trying to push this mother out. God bless yas :p
     
  25. Offline

    tylercheez02

    dev.bukkit.org profile:
    CFUSERNAME
    My Plugins (CFCOUNT)
    Minecraft account:
    MCUSERNAME
    Im pretty good at GUI,what are you looking for?
     
  26. Offline

    toxic375

    dev.bukkit.org profile:
    CFUSERNAME
    My Plugins (CFCOUNT)
    Minecraft account:
    MCUSERNAME
    I know what you mean, however LogBlock has a dev release for 1.2 which we are running, I couldn't stand the fact that Hawkeye would stop recording block placements randomly, and we have 67 registered users...not fun...so LogBlock is our lover, until Guardian is released..then LC and LB might (underlined for emphasis as I am unsure of how the first version of Guardian will be compared to the current version of LogBlock) need a divorce :eek:
     
  27. Offline

    KA_Gamer

    dev.bukkit.org profile:
    CFUSERNAME
    My Plugins (CFCOUNT)
    Minecraft account:
    MCUSERNAME
    Try having over 2,4oo unique players! Hawkeye is so frustrating, especially when half those players are banned for griefing and the logging just doesn't work. I will pray for this plugins release!
     
  28. Offline

    md_5

    My BukkitDev Profile
    My Plugins (8)
    dev.bukkit.org profile:
    CFUSERNAME
    My Plugins (CFCOUNT)
    Minecraft account:
    MCUSERNAME
    We use Hawkeye with 300,000 unique players. Is there a problem with it?
     
  29. Offline

    Jacek

    My BukkitDev Profile
    My Plugins (14)
    dev.bukkit.org profile:
    CFUSERNAME
    My Plugins (CFCOUNT)
    Minecraft account:
    MCUSERNAME
    And I was pleased when I say my ~500 ;)
     
  30. Offline

    toxic375

    dev.bukkit.org profile:
    CFUSERNAME
    My Plugins (CFCOUNT)
    Minecraft account:
    MCUSERNAME
    Yes. It doesn't always log things. But maybe I just had something set up wrong. Ah well.

    I would love to see Guardian have the writelogfile command like LB (if its not already planned), that was something I was thinking I was going to miss when we almost switched to Hawkeye. Useful for when you want to post ban evidence on your website. Although, I wouldn't expect it to be added in until a later update I don't want to bog you guys down with my ideas :p especially since it isn't my plugin nor am I able to help code any of it.
     

Share This Page